1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,240 six . 2 00:00:05,110 --> 00:00:07,450 You want to start Megan , you already , 3 00:00:08,740 --> 00:00:12,570 I'll stand up there , I'm quite 4 00:00:12,570 --> 00:00:15,250 sure and do it better than me . 5 00:00:16,370 --> 00:00:19,460 Um so a few things at the top here , 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,500 I think , you know , today , the 7 00:00:25,510 --> 00:00:27,800 department issued an updated policy on 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,744 prohibited extremist activities by 9 00:00:29,744 --> 00:00:31,356 military personnel . This is 10 00:00:31,356 --> 00:00:34,100 instruction 1325.06 , which is an 11 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:37,900 existing uh instruction that we that we 12 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:40,011 updated and we updated it as a result 13 00:00:40,011 --> 00:00:41,850 of as I think , you know , when 14 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:45,470 Secretary Austin back in the spring uh 15 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:48,280 established the counter extremism 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,336 working group , that that was one of 17 00:00:50,336 --> 00:00:52,391 the immediate actions that he wanted 18 00:00:52,391 --> 00:00:54,700 them to take . So so that has that has 19 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:56,867 been updated and published and it goes 20 00:00:56,867 --> 00:00:59,130 into effect today , the revised 21 00:00:59,130 --> 00:01:01,350 instruction regroups , issues into 22 00:01:01,350 --> 00:01:03,960 three sections , prohibited extremist 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,904 activities . Command Authority and 24 00:01:05,904 --> 00:01:08,050 responsibilities and criminal gangs . 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,650 It also prohibits active participation 26 00:01:10,660 --> 00:01:12,660 in extremist activities and clearly 27 00:01:12,660 --> 00:01:15,040 defines what we mean by the term 28 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,170 extremist activities . As Secretary 29 00:01:17,170 --> 00:01:19,337 Austin has emphasized , the department 30 00:01:19,337 --> 00:01:21,570 is focused on prohibited activity , not 31 00:01:21,580 --> 00:01:24,240 on a particular ideology , thought or 32 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,640 political orientation . The department 33 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,640 has always maintained a distinction 34 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,807 between thoughts and actions . The new 35 00:01:30,807 --> 00:01:32,640 definition preserves the service 36 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,584 members right of expression to the 37 00:01:34,584 --> 00:01:36,751 extent possible , while also balancing 38 00:01:36,751 --> 00:01:38,918 the need for good order and discipline 39 00:01:38,918 --> 00:01:38,850 to affect military combat and unit 40 00:01:38,850 --> 00:01:41,340 readiness . Mhm . These new updates 41 00:01:41,340 --> 00:01:43,451 provide increased clarity for service 42 00:01:43,451 --> 00:01:45,173 members and commanders on what 43 00:01:45,173 --> 00:01:47,062 qualifies as prohibited extremist 44 00:01:47,062 --> 00:01:48,951 activities . Secretary heard from 45 00:01:48,951 --> 00:01:51,007 personnel across the force about the 46 00:01:51,007 --> 00:01:53,173 need to update and clarify this policy 47 00:01:53,173 --> 00:01:52,950 during the stand downs that he directed 48 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,182 earlier this year . That was one of the 49 00:01:55,182 --> 00:01:57,404 common bits of feedback that we got was 50 00:01:57,404 --> 00:02:00,260 that they wanted more clarity . And so 51 00:02:00,260 --> 00:02:02,149 we tried to do that with this new 52 00:02:02,149 --> 00:02:04,149 instruction . Um He signed out next 53 00:02:04,149 --> 00:02:06,150 steps that we're also going to be 54 00:02:06,150 --> 00:02:07,872 releasing today along with the 55 00:02:07,872 --> 00:02:09,983 countering extremism activity Working 56 00:02:09,983 --> 00:02:12,094 group's report which should be online 57 00:02:12,094 --> 00:02:15,170 and available to you . Now , the report 58 00:02:15,170 --> 00:02:17,590 recommends next steps in four lines of 59 00:02:17,590 --> 00:02:19,757 effort , military justice and policy , 60 00:02:19,757 --> 00:02:21,979 investigative and screening processes , 61 00:02:21,979 --> 00:02:23,701 training and education and the 62 00:02:23,701 --> 00:02:25,812 department's insider threat program . 63 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,060 The vast majority of men and women in 64 00:02:29,060 --> 00:02:31,060 our armed forces as of course , you 65 00:02:31,060 --> 00:02:33,227 know , serve honorably while extremist 66 00:02:33,227 --> 00:02:35,227 activity in the force is rare , any 67 00:02:35,227 --> 00:02:37,450 instance can have an outsized effect 68 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,729 Now . In addition to revising the 69 00:02:39,729 --> 00:02:41,784 destruct the instruction , the three 70 00:02:41,784 --> 00:02:43,618 other immediate actions are also 71 00:02:43,618 --> 00:02:45,284 complete . The service member 72 00:02:45,284 --> 00:02:47,396 transition checklist has been updated 73 00:02:47,396 --> 00:02:49,507 to help address extremist groups that 74 00:02:49,507 --> 00:02:51,673 target military veterans . The recruit 75 00:02:51,673 --> 00:02:53,729 screening questionnaire has now been 76 00:02:53,729 --> 00:02:55,673 updated and is more consistent now 77 00:02:55,673 --> 00:02:57,840 across the services and the department 78 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,673 has commissioned a study to gain 79 00:02:59,673 --> 00:03:01,840 greater fidelity on extremist activity 80 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,062 in the force going forward . That study 81 00:03:04,062 --> 00:03:06,118 has begun and I don't have an update 82 00:03:06,118 --> 00:03:07,920 for you on it today . The six 83 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:09,920 additional recommendations from the 84 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:11,920 working group are nested inside our 85 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:14,031 government wide national strategy for 86 00:03:14,031 --> 00:03:16,198 countering domestic extremism that was 87 00:03:16,198 --> 00:03:18,650 issued by the White House in june . So 88 00:03:18,650 --> 00:03:20,890 that's it on the extremist activities 89 00:03:21,340 --> 00:03:23,507 earlier today . On schedule item . The 90 00:03:23,507 --> 00:03:25,680 Secretary uh swore in Admiral chris 91 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,847 Grady as the 12th Vice Chairman of the 92 00:03:27,847 --> 00:03:29,680 Joint Chiefs of Staff . The vice 93 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,513 chairman is assigned a number of 94 00:03:31,513 --> 00:03:33,791 responsibilities within the department , 95 00:03:33,791 --> 00:03:33,260 including leading the joint 96 00:03:33,260 --> 00:03:35,490 requirements oversight council and as a 97 00:03:35,490 --> 00:03:37,546 senior member of the Nuclear weapons 98 00:03:37,546 --> 00:03:39,657 Council , we thank Emerald greedy for 99 00:03:39,657 --> 00:03:41,879 his leadership and we certainly welcome 100 00:03:41,879 --> 00:03:43,879 into his new position here . Lastly 101 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:45,657 today , we want to wish a happy 102 00:03:45,657 --> 00:03:47,768 birthday to the U . S . Space Force . 103 00:03:47,768 --> 00:03:50,000 This is year two of the service uh and 104 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,944 year two saw tremendous growth and 105 00:03:51,944 --> 00:03:53,556 partnerships and significant 106 00:03:53,556 --> 00:03:55,611 accomplishments for their mission of 107 00:03:55,611 --> 00:03:57,611 organizing , training and equipping 108 00:03:57,611 --> 00:03:59,667 guardians to serve as the experts in 109 00:03:59,667 --> 00:04:01,833 the space domain Space force . It also 110 00:04:01,833 --> 00:04:04,000 commemorates its birthday with a month 111 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,167 long stem to space campaign to connect 112 00:04:06,167 --> 00:04:08,222 students with space professionals to 113 00:04:08,222 --> 00:04:10,222 share experiences and emphasize the 114 00:04:10,222 --> 00:04:12,167 importance of stem education . The 115 00:04:12,167 --> 00:04:14,111 campaign is designed to facilitate 116 00:04:14,111 --> 00:04:15,778 direct engagement with school 117 00:04:15,778 --> 00:04:18,000 classrooms to raise awareness about the 118 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,056 services , contributions to national 119 00:04:20,056 --> 00:04:22,167 security and daily life . In addition 120 00:04:22,167 --> 00:04:24,333 to highlighting the importance of stem 121 00:04:24,333 --> 00:04:26,530 education . Now . This month they've 122 00:04:26,540 --> 00:04:28,930 reached more than 100 and 84,000 123 00:04:28,930 --> 00:04:31,208 students in all 50 states Washington D . 124 00:04:31,208 --> 00:04:33,750 C , Puerto rico , Mexico Guam , japan 125 00:04:33,750 --> 00:04:36,690 south Korea Germany Belgium Italy and 126 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:38,930 the United Kingdom . And so we're again 127 00:04:38,930 --> 00:04:40,930 happy to congratulate them on their 128 00:04:40,930 --> 00:04:44,200 second birthday leader , john a couple 129 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,570 of things on timing and then one other 130 00:04:46,570 --> 00:04:49,310 question , do you know , can you say 131 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,510 right now that the checklist for people 132 00:04:52,510 --> 00:04:54,732 who are retiring is actually being used 133 00:04:54,732 --> 00:04:57,810 as of today ? Is the screening of the 134 00:04:57,810 --> 00:05:00,090 recruits ? Is that new updated 135 00:05:00,090 --> 00:05:03,620 screening being used as of today and 136 00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:06,570 then the new training and education 137 00:05:06,580 --> 00:05:09,180 piece that it didn't seem to have 138 00:05:09,180 --> 00:05:12,430 already started to happen ? Or has some 139 00:05:12,430 --> 00:05:15,740 of that actually begun questionnaire 140 00:05:15,740 --> 00:05:18,070 has been uh , standardized across the 141 00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:20,630 services and that is in effect . Um , 142 00:05:20,900 --> 00:05:23,660 as I said that he , he ordered four 143 00:05:23,660 --> 00:05:25,827 immediate actions and all of them have 144 00:05:25,827 --> 00:05:27,604 taken place . The other one you 145 00:05:27,604 --> 00:05:30,270 mentioned was the , um , the , the 146 00:05:30,270 --> 00:05:32,492 checklist for departing members as they 147 00:05:32,492 --> 00:05:34,048 get through transition . My 148 00:05:34,048 --> 00:05:36,103 understanding is that that too is in 149 00:05:36,103 --> 00:05:38,270 place . Um , and then you have another 150 00:05:38,270 --> 00:05:40,381 question on training and because that 151 00:05:40,381 --> 00:05:42,437 has the additional training and they 152 00:05:42,437 --> 00:05:44,214 talked about sort of a computer 153 00:05:44,214 --> 00:05:46,270 training . I mean , I think that I'm 154 00:05:46,270 --> 00:05:48,381 going to take your question , but I'm 155 00:05:48,381 --> 00:05:48,010 pretty sure that's still in train that 156 00:05:48,010 --> 00:05:50,066 we're still working through that . I 157 00:05:50,066 --> 00:05:52,330 don't know that it is um , you know , 158 00:05:52,340 --> 00:05:54,396 fully complete and instituted across 159 00:05:54,396 --> 00:05:56,720 the force . But let me ask , um , I 160 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,831 would also just add there that that's 161 00:05:58,831 --> 00:06:00,553 the kind of thing that will be 162 00:06:00,553 --> 00:06:02,498 iterative Leader Leader . I mean , 163 00:06:02,498 --> 00:06:04,609 it'll be updated and reviewed all the 164 00:06:04,609 --> 00:06:06,776 time . So they'll be , I would suspect 165 00:06:06,776 --> 00:06:08,776 continuous changes to that training 166 00:06:08,776 --> 00:06:10,831 more broadly on the whole membership 167 00:06:10,831 --> 00:06:13,053 and extremist organization issue . Um , 168 00:06:13,740 --> 00:06:15,851 there's there was a lot of talk about 169 00:06:15,851 --> 00:06:18,770 their what constitutes active 170 00:06:18,780 --> 00:06:21,870 participation . Um , there's no list of 171 00:06:21,870 --> 00:06:24,150 member organizations that people should 172 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:28,000 not be Um a member of . Can you just 173 00:06:28,010 --> 00:06:31,250 explain , explain more broadly why was 174 00:06:31,250 --> 00:06:34,130 there a choice not to at least 175 00:06:34,130 --> 00:06:36,670 enumerate some list to give people 176 00:06:36,670 --> 00:06:40,070 better guidance ? And how 177 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,880 limited is this sort of active 178 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,102 participation in membership ? Like what 179 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,607 where is the line , what can they do ? 180 00:06:46,607 --> 00:06:48,718 Can they just say , fill out a little 181 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:50,907 something that says I'm now a member . 182 00:06:50,907 --> 00:06:53,129 Do they have to pay dues ? Do they have 183 00:06:53,129 --> 00:06:56,350 to go to a rally ? Yeah , so there's 184 00:06:56,540 --> 00:07:00,320 there's a lot there , um just 185 00:07:00,330 --> 00:07:03,350 where do I dig in ? I mean , but the 186 00:07:03,740 --> 00:07:07,060 so on the groups , um 187 00:07:07,650 --> 00:07:10,370 and we've talked about this before , a 188 00:07:10,370 --> 00:07:12,760 couple of things I remember um 189 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,900 groups can and do change their 190 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:22,250 methodology , their ideals , uh 191 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:26,200 their motivations , um and they 192 00:07:26,210 --> 00:07:28,043 can reform themselves , they can 193 00:07:28,043 --> 00:07:30,321 disband and reform into something else . 194 00:07:30,321 --> 00:07:34,080 And so if we got into coming up with a 195 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,230 list of extremist groups , it would be 196 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,760 only probably as good as the day we 197 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,420 published it , because these groups 198 00:07:42,420 --> 00:07:45,910 change . Number two , not everybody 199 00:07:45,910 --> 00:07:48,990 who participates in extremist 200 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:51,212 activities is a card carrying member of 201 00:07:51,212 --> 00:07:53,212 a group , some people just get self 202 00:07:53,212 --> 00:07:55,810 radicalized . Um and there's many 203 00:07:55,810 --> 00:07:59,280 different factors that lead to them uh 204 00:07:59,290 --> 00:08:02,160 taking part in prohibited extremist 205 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,327 activities . And so again , you know , 206 00:08:04,327 --> 00:08:06,327 keeping it to a group dynamic would 207 00:08:06,327 --> 00:08:08,327 would actually limit our ability to 208 00:08:08,327 --> 00:08:11,450 deal with the issue . And 209 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,480 um the last thing I'd say is there's no 210 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,540 federal list of extremist groups , and 211 00:08:18,540 --> 00:08:20,651 so we didn't think it was appropriate 212 00:08:20,651 --> 00:08:22,484 for The Department of Defense to 213 00:08:22,484 --> 00:08:25,790 establish one um on your question about 214 00:08:25,790 --> 00:08:27,901 active participation ? I mean , and I 215 00:08:27,901 --> 00:08:30,320 won't read the whole thing , but it's 216 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,860 it's pretty clear in here um 217 00:08:34,990 --> 00:08:38,800 in the instruction what what let's 218 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,470 find it , this is access participation 219 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,536 as it relates to being a member of a 220 00:08:44,536 --> 00:08:47,860 group . So active participation . 221 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,390 Well let me put it this way without 222 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,511 going through all the list of it . Um 223 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,060 The two part test of 224 00:08:58,540 --> 00:09:02,280 and activity being prohibited and 225 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,360 that's not enough . Then you have to be 226 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,471 able to prove active participation in 227 00:09:08,471 --> 00:09:10,527 that when you put that two part test 228 00:09:10,527 --> 00:09:12,582 together and when you go through the 229 00:09:12,582 --> 00:09:14,749 list that we have in the instruction , 230 00:09:14,749 --> 00:09:16,971 you'll see that there's not a whole lot 231 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:19,260 about membership in a group that you're 232 00:09:19,260 --> 00:09:22,280 gonna be able to get away with just by 233 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,860 dint of the very comprehensive two part 234 00:09:25,860 --> 00:09:27,804 test that's in here and the active 235 00:09:27,804 --> 00:09:30,510 active participation criteria , there's 236 00:09:30,510 --> 00:09:32,732 really not a lot that you know , if you 237 00:09:32,732 --> 00:09:34,960 want to be a member of you pick it um 238 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,370 in order to prove your membership , 239 00:09:38,380 --> 00:09:40,547 you're probably gonna run afoul of one 240 00:09:40,547 --> 00:09:43,250 of these of one of these criteria sets . 241 00:09:43,740 --> 00:09:46,830 Okay , so I'd like to understand a 242 00:09:46,830 --> 00:09:49,010 little more about if you like content 243 00:09:49,020 --> 00:09:51,187 on the internet and how that could get 244 00:09:51,187 --> 00:09:53,242 you in trouble in terms of these new 245 00:09:53,242 --> 00:09:55,380 rules ? What does it mean if someone 246 00:09:55,390 --> 00:09:57,720 accidentally like something and do they 247 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,040 have a chance to explain that to a 248 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,730 superior officer ? Do um is it one 249 00:10:02,730 --> 00:10:05,710 strike and you're out ? What and how do 250 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,890 you explain if you could explain ? So 251 00:10:07,890 --> 00:10:10,001 the act of the physical act of liking 252 00:10:10,001 --> 00:10:11,890 is of course advocating right and 253 00:10:11,890 --> 00:10:15,670 advocating for extremist groups , 254 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:19,050 certainly , you know , groups that that 255 00:10:20,340 --> 00:10:22,562 that advocate violating the oath to the 256 00:10:22,562 --> 00:10:24,340 constitution , overthrow of the 257 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:26,229 government terrorist activities , 258 00:10:26,229 --> 00:10:28,500 liking is an AD is an advocation . Um 259 00:10:28,510 --> 00:10:30,350 and that's laid out clear in the 260 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,660 instruction . Uh but 261 00:10:34,940 --> 00:10:38,130 uh huh . Mhm . The other thing that's 262 00:10:38,130 --> 00:10:40,360 laid out in the instruction , jen is 263 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,971 the responsibilities and the 264 00:10:41,971 --> 00:10:45,320 authorities of commanders here . And so 265 00:10:45,330 --> 00:10:47,330 it's very , it's gonna be very case 266 00:10:47,330 --> 00:10:49,750 specific and it will be up to a chain 267 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,080 the chain individuals chain of command 268 00:10:52,090 --> 00:10:54,280 and his or her senior leadership in in 269 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,110 the unit to have that discussion . The 270 00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:59,221 determination whether this was a very 271 00:10:59,221 --> 00:11:02,830 deliberate act of active 272 00:11:02,830 --> 00:11:04,960 participation in extremist activities 273 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,250 or whether it was maybe a mistake and 274 00:11:07,940 --> 00:11:09,996 you know , I don't think it would be 275 00:11:09,996 --> 00:11:12,051 helpful to get into hypotheticals at 276 00:11:12,051 --> 00:11:14,218 this point in time . But that's one of 277 00:11:14,218 --> 00:11:16,273 the reasons your question is exactly 278 00:11:16,273 --> 00:11:17,996 one of the reasons why one key 279 00:11:17,996 --> 00:11:20,700 component of this instruction is a more 280 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:23,830 clear explanation of what commanders 281 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,896 authorities and responsibilities are 282 00:11:25,896 --> 00:11:27,840 and really delegating down to them 283 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,007 because they know their units and they 284 00:11:30,007 --> 00:11:31,896 know there are people better than 285 00:11:31,896 --> 00:11:34,118 anybody delegating down to them to help 286 00:11:34,118 --> 00:11:36,118 make that determination ? Does that 287 00:11:36,118 --> 00:11:38,118 mean that they are authorized to uh 288 00:11:38,118 --> 00:11:40,520 will they be monitoring social media 24 289 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,510 7 of their unit members or any 290 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,242 recruits ? I mean how does the 291 00:11:46,242 --> 00:11:48,298 monitoring ? There's no monitoring , 292 00:11:48,298 --> 00:11:50,520 this is not it's not about monitoring , 293 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,798 there's there's no methodology in here , 294 00:11:52,798 --> 00:11:55,020 There's no intent , we don't even 295 00:11:55,030 --> 00:11:57,730 there's no ability for the Department 296 00:11:57,730 --> 00:12:00,330 of Defense to monitor the personal 297 00:12:00,330 --> 00:12:02,800 social media content of every member of 298 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,780 the armed forces . And and even if 299 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:07,058 there was , that's not the intent here . 300 00:12:07,058 --> 00:12:10,020 Um what we're talking about is a case 301 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:12,480 where uh for instance , it came to 302 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,760 light uh that that that an individual 303 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,190 on social media openly advocated uh 304 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,450 forwarded , encouraged the the 305 00:12:23,460 --> 00:12:27,190 dissemination of prohibited extremist 306 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,540 material that would have to come to 307 00:12:30,540 --> 00:12:32,429 light through the various various 308 00:12:32,429 --> 00:12:35,050 streams of reporting . It wouldn't be 309 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,129 something that the command or the 310 00:12:37,129 --> 00:12:39,150 department is going to be actively 311 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,050 fishing for a member of the U . S . 312 00:12:42,050 --> 00:12:44,430 Military likes a post that says that 313 00:12:44,430 --> 00:12:46,540 joe biden is not the president , is 314 00:12:46,540 --> 00:12:48,707 that considered extremist behavior and 315 00:12:48,707 --> 00:12:50,873 punishable . I'm not going to get into 316 00:12:50,873 --> 00:12:52,984 specific hypotheticals Jenna , I just 317 00:12:52,984 --> 00:12:55,750 won't do that , is that extremist 318 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:57,972 behavior , but but but then we could be 319 00:12:57,972 --> 00:13:00,110 here for hours going through whether 320 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,990 liking all kinds of different 321 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,760 hypothetical pieces of material and I 322 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,110 just don't think that's useful . Um the 323 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,140 instructions very clear about what 324 00:13:10,140 --> 00:13:12,251 comprises extremist activity and what 325 00:13:12,251 --> 00:13:14,418 comprises active participation in it . 326 00:13:14,418 --> 00:13:17,910 Um and uh and we are certainly 327 00:13:18,540 --> 00:13:20,207 I have full confidence in our 328 00:13:20,207 --> 00:13:22,390 commander's ability , um , when 329 00:13:22,390 --> 00:13:24,501 something's reported them to treat it 330 00:13:24,501 --> 00:13:26,723 appropriately , and to and to look into 331 00:13:26,723 --> 00:13:28,890 it , um , in the manner that they seem 332 00:13:28,890 --> 00:13:31,370 fit . I do want your question didn't 333 00:13:31,370 --> 00:13:33,592 get to this , but I'm going to take the 334 00:13:33,592 --> 00:13:36,110 opportunity . Nothing about this has 335 00:13:36,110 --> 00:13:39,200 anything to do with whom a service 336 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,520 member votes for , or doesn't vote for 337 00:13:41,570 --> 00:13:43,970 or their personal political views . We 338 00:13:43,980 --> 00:13:46,210 encourage the men and women of the 339 00:13:46,210 --> 00:13:49,640 military to vote . Um , and there are 340 00:13:49,650 --> 00:13:51,428 there are lists separately in a 341 00:13:51,428 --> 00:13:53,539 different instruction of what you can 342 00:13:53,539 --> 00:13:55,150 or can't do from a political 343 00:13:55,150 --> 00:13:57,206 perspective when you're in uniform , 344 00:13:57,206 --> 00:13:59,261 but we want them to be a part of the 345 00:13:59,261 --> 00:13:59,180 democratic process . That's why we make 346 00:13:59,180 --> 00:14:02,310 sure they have access to um uh to cast 347 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:05,040 their votes , whether it's uh remotely 348 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,710 or in person . Um this isn't about 349 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,130 political um leanings or or or or 350 00:14:11,130 --> 00:14:13,560 partisan inclinations , it's about 351 00:14:13,940 --> 00:14:16,090 activity , it's about prohibited 352 00:14:16,090 --> 00:14:18,080 extremist activity and active 353 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,660 participation in that activity . So , 354 00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:25,180 just to follow up saying , if you 355 00:14:25,180 --> 00:14:27,180 like , something that suggests that 356 00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:29,402 your commander in chief is not actually 357 00:14:29,402 --> 00:14:31,569 the president , that is different than 358 00:14:31,569 --> 00:14:33,791 political activity . That is actually a 359 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,856 good order and discipline issue , is 360 00:14:35,856 --> 00:14:37,633 that punishable under these new 361 00:14:37,633 --> 00:14:39,856 regulations , I think , again , I'm not 362 00:14:39,856 --> 00:14:41,467 going to get into a specific 363 00:14:41,467 --> 00:14:43,689 hypothetical djinn , it's all in here , 364 00:14:43,689 --> 00:14:46,420 but if you are advocating um for the 365 00:14:46,420 --> 00:14:48,642 overthrow of the government . If you're 366 00:14:48,642 --> 00:14:50,753 advocating for the use of violence or 367 00:14:50,753 --> 00:14:54,340 force against uh an 368 00:14:54,340 --> 00:14:56,451 individual or group based on who that 369 00:14:56,451 --> 00:14:58,784 individual is or that group is . I mean , 370 00:14:58,784 --> 00:15:01,007 it's all in here . If you're advocating 371 00:15:01,007 --> 00:15:02,951 for domestic terrorism , if you're 372 00:15:02,951 --> 00:15:02,670 advocating for , as I said , the 373 00:15:02,670 --> 00:15:04,892 overthrow of the government , or you're 374 00:15:04,892 --> 00:15:08,060 actively undermining the oath you took 375 00:15:08,060 --> 00:15:10,004 to the constitution to support and 376 00:15:10,004 --> 00:15:12,116 defend the Constitution of the United 377 00:15:12,116 --> 00:15:14,338 States , then all that fits just last , 378 00:15:14,338 --> 00:15:16,560 the last question , how many extremists 379 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,504 did you actually find ? Well , the 380 00:15:18,504 --> 00:15:20,449 effort , just to be clear , wasn't 381 00:15:20,449 --> 00:15:22,504 about going and finding extremists , 382 00:15:22,504 --> 00:15:24,560 that there was two components here . 383 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,671 One was to report out the work of the 384 00:15:26,671 --> 00:15:28,782 extremist working group , which we've 385 00:15:28,782 --> 00:15:30,880 done today , and also updating the 386 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,213 instruction which we've also done today . 387 00:15:33,213 --> 00:15:35,570 Now , one of the things that we knew , 388 00:15:35,570 --> 00:15:37,792 and we talked about this many times was 389 00:15:37,792 --> 00:15:40,014 that we needed to get a better sense of 390 00:15:40,014 --> 00:15:42,420 data collection , because oftentimes 391 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,807 sometimes you find out about extremist 392 00:15:45,807 --> 00:15:47,751 activity from the chain of command 393 00:15:47,751 --> 00:15:50,460 reporting it up , or a colleague 394 00:15:50,470 --> 00:15:52,526 reporting it . Sometimes we we don't 395 00:15:52,526 --> 00:15:54,530 know about uh an extremist activity 396 00:15:54,530 --> 00:15:57,090 unless law enforcement or even the FBI 397 00:15:57,100 --> 00:15:59,800 reports something to us . So we took a 398 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,240 look at both internal and external data 399 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,550 systems . And we recognize that we've 400 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:06,661 got to do a better job stitching them 401 00:16:06,661 --> 00:16:08,828 together . And part you'll see some of 402 00:16:08,828 --> 00:16:10,994 that in the working group's report and 403 00:16:10,994 --> 00:16:13,161 we're gonna do that . So this exercise 404 00:16:13,161 --> 00:16:15,439 wasn't about finding numbers that said , 405 00:16:15,439 --> 00:16:17,760 as we worked through things over the 406 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,640 course of the last 89 months . Um we 407 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,140 believe that less than 100 or about 100 408 00:16:24,970 --> 00:16:27,680 active duty or reserve component 409 00:16:27,690 --> 00:16:30,570 members of the military uh participated 410 00:16:30,570 --> 00:16:33,270 in some prohibited extremist activities . 411 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,010 About 100 that we have been able to get 412 00:16:36,020 --> 00:16:39,330 together and we uh but but again , our 413 00:16:39,330 --> 00:16:41,600 data collection systems still need to 414 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,300 get better . Um and so you know that 415 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:46,522 that's what we know right now and uh we 416 00:16:46,522 --> 00:16:48,900 obviously want to be able to make sure 417 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:51,230 that we can refine that going forward , 418 00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:54,080 but about 100 . Yeah . Tara . 419 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,990 So on the in the policy itself , the 420 00:16:57,990 --> 00:17:01,110 liking also includes using emojis or 421 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,231 favorite kiting according to this new 422 00:17:03,231 --> 00:17:05,398 policy . And I was just wondering , um 423 00:17:05,398 --> 00:17:07,509 will there be training especially for 424 00:17:07,509 --> 00:17:09,676 people newly joining ? Because I think 425 00:17:09,676 --> 00:17:11,898 there is going to be a lot of confusion 426 00:17:11,898 --> 00:17:13,898 about what they can and can't do on 427 00:17:13,898 --> 00:17:16,090 these social media platforms now . And 428 00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:18,211 and will that training be universal . 429 00:17:18,211 --> 00:17:20,322 Um so that everybody's playing by the 430 00:17:20,322 --> 00:17:21,933 same rule set . And will the 431 00:17:21,933 --> 00:17:24,890 punishments be universal to well , well , 432 00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:27,650 let's get into punishments . Okay . But 433 00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:29,827 but yes , part of this and part of the 434 00:17:29,827 --> 00:17:32,049 work we did was that we know we need to 435 00:17:32,049 --> 00:17:33,938 do a better job with training and 436 00:17:33,938 --> 00:17:37,160 education um as people come in as they 437 00:17:37,170 --> 00:17:39,337 over the course of their careers . And 438 00:17:39,337 --> 00:17:41,337 of course we also want to make sure 439 00:17:41,337 --> 00:17:43,448 they're educated as they get ready to 440 00:17:43,448 --> 00:17:45,448 leave the military . So yes , there 441 00:17:45,448 --> 00:17:47,337 will , there will be training and 442 00:17:47,337 --> 00:17:49,830 education program that , that includes 443 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,450 very specifically the guidelines for 444 00:17:52,450 --> 00:17:54,561 social media , what's permissible and 445 00:17:54,561 --> 00:17:56,617 what's not with respect to extremist 446 00:17:56,617 --> 00:17:58,750 prohibited activities . Yes . Now on 447 00:17:58,750 --> 00:18:01,170 punishments , I mean , as I said , uh , 448 00:18:01,180 --> 00:18:03,291 and I really encourage you to look at 449 00:18:03,291 --> 00:18:05,291 that and the instruction , a lot of 450 00:18:05,291 --> 00:18:07,013 this , um , is going to be the 451 00:18:07,013 --> 00:18:08,847 responsibility of commanders and 452 00:18:08,847 --> 00:18:11,013 commanders will have to make that call 453 00:18:11,013 --> 00:18:13,069 on their own , uh , in terms of what 454 00:18:13,069 --> 00:18:15,291 they believe is the right thing to do . 455 00:18:15,291 --> 00:18:17,236 It's not something that , uh , the 456 00:18:17,236 --> 00:18:19,402 department would dictate at this level 457 00:18:19,402 --> 00:18:21,513 and not everything has to be punished 458 00:18:21,513 --> 00:18:23,347 either . I mean , to jen's first 459 00:18:23,347 --> 00:18:23,130 question , I mean , it could be an 460 00:18:23,130 --> 00:18:25,297 accident , Right ? So you want to have 461 00:18:25,297 --> 00:18:27,463 a conversation here . Um , so it's not 462 00:18:27,463 --> 00:18:30,480 just that a knee jerk reaction to , uh , 463 00:18:30,490 --> 00:18:32,657 to immediately go to punishment . Each 464 00:18:32,657 --> 00:18:34,379 case will have to be looked at 465 00:18:34,379 --> 00:18:36,601 individually and again with kind of the 466 00:18:36,601 --> 00:18:38,434 outreach and training . Um , I'm 467 00:18:38,434 --> 00:18:40,490 already hearing pushback from people 468 00:18:40,490 --> 00:18:42,546 that , um , you know , often they'll 469 00:18:42,546 --> 00:18:44,870 hit like , because it's interesting or 470 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,780 to bookmark it for later . Um , so it 471 00:18:47,780 --> 00:18:49,891 seems like there really is going to , 472 00:18:49,891 --> 00:18:52,058 there is going to be some confusion as 473 00:18:52,058 --> 00:18:54,224 to , you know , just because someone's 474 00:18:54,224 --> 00:18:56,058 click the like button , are they 475 00:18:56,058 --> 00:18:56,010 advocating for the overthrow of the 476 00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:59,200 government and just wondering like how , 477 00:18:59,210 --> 00:19:01,321 how will you deal with that push back 478 00:19:01,321 --> 00:19:03,543 or is it just gonna be a flat policy of 479 00:19:03,543 --> 00:19:05,766 don't do it . Don't click on it . Don't 480 00:19:05,766 --> 00:19:07,766 like it . Don't again , I think the 481 00:19:07,766 --> 00:19:09,766 instructions made it clear what our 482 00:19:09,766 --> 00:19:12,290 social media expectations are and what 483 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:15,270 advocating on social media includes , 484 00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:17,548 which it does include liking something . 485 00:19:17,548 --> 00:19:19,381 It's been very it's very clear . 486 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,800 So again , I encourage everybody to 487 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,280 look at the instruction , but it's it's 488 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,873 it's pretty concise the way it's 489 00:19:27,873 --> 00:19:30,096 written . But to your larger point , as 490 00:19:30,096 --> 00:19:32,096 I said before , of course , we know 491 00:19:32,096 --> 00:19:34,096 we're going to have this is this is 492 00:19:34,096 --> 00:19:36,318 part of this is a new thing . This this 493 00:19:36,318 --> 00:19:35,980 social media inclusion in the 494 00:19:35,980 --> 00:19:38,560 instruction . Uh , and so we know we 495 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,727 have to do some training and education 496 00:19:40,727 --> 00:19:42,949 of the force going forward and we'll do 497 00:19:42,949 --> 00:19:45,270 that . We'll do that . Thank you . The 498 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,336 budget proposal includes a line item 499 00:19:47,336 --> 00:19:49,669 about developing some sort of U C M . J . 500 00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:51,891 Article or sub specification that deals 501 00:19:51,891 --> 00:19:54,150 with extremism specifically . Is that 502 00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:56,372 still on the table or is there anything 503 00:19:56,372 --> 00:19:58,483 you guys can do to start that process 504 00:19:58,483 --> 00:20:00,594 now , without that additional funding 505 00:20:00,594 --> 00:20:02,817 from Congress that you have asked for . 506 00:20:02,817 --> 00:20:04,928 Yeah . Um , let me take your question 507 00:20:04,928 --> 00:20:07,150 because I don't I don't actually have a 508 00:20:07,150 --> 00:20:09,483 good answer for that one . Yeah , jenny . 509 00:20:09,483 --> 00:20:11,690 Thank you , john North Korea for the 510 00:20:11,690 --> 00:20:14,950 ministry has one last weekend 511 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:18,380 recently , the United States 512 00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:22,010 reconnaissance airplane through 513 00:20:22,010 --> 00:20:25,320 over the Russian border area 514 00:20:25,330 --> 00:20:29,190 and North Korea said that the cause the 515 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,730 provocation of the U . S . Will result 516 00:20:32,730 --> 00:20:36,490 in a strong Russian response . What do 517 00:20:36,490 --> 00:20:40,050 you think about North Korea's defense 518 00:20:40,330 --> 00:20:44,010 of Russia's Crane of Russia 519 00:20:44,010 --> 00:20:44,850 Ukraine . 520 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,050 Russia claims claims Russia's 521 00:20:53,050 --> 00:20:56,660 claims . Yes sir . Yeah . Yeah . Yeah 522 00:20:57,530 --> 00:21:01,180 I'm sorry I missed a I missed a little 523 00:21:01,180 --> 00:21:04,760 bit of it . So the US the 524 00:21:04,770 --> 00:21:08,010 reconnaissance I think cl 600 525 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,060 airplane flew over to 526 00:21:11,860 --> 00:21:15,740 Russian border area so Russia 527 00:21:15,740 --> 00:21:19,360 is cramped too . The United States . 528 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:23,260 But this is the north Korea korean 529 00:21:23,260 --> 00:21:26,630 sport . How do you think Russia 530 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,096 Russia claims that the United States 531 00:21:29,096 --> 00:21:31,207 flu and then North Korea's supporting 532 00:21:31,207 --> 00:21:33,318 Russia's claim that the United States 533 00:21:33,318 --> 00:21:35,318 violated Russian airspace . Is that 534 00:21:35,318 --> 00:21:39,240 correct ? Yes thank you . I don't 535 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,240 know anything about this particular 536 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,530 incident and the and the claim . So um 537 00:21:44,540 --> 00:21:47,070 I'd really rather not speculate about 538 00:21:47,070 --> 00:21:49,237 it . I just don't have not heard about 539 00:21:49,237 --> 00:21:51,459 this particular incident . So why don't 540 00:21:51,459 --> 00:21:53,681 we take this question too and we'll see 541 00:21:53,681 --> 00:21:55,737 if we can get you a better answer on 542 00:21:55,737 --> 00:21:58,050 that nearby black sea 543 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,860 region border . So I think , 544 00:22:02,740 --> 00:22:04,962 yeah I mean again I don't know anything 545 00:22:04,962 --> 00:22:07,184 about this incident and what the claims 546 00:22:07,184 --> 00:22:09,184 are . The counter claims uh we have 547 00:22:09,184 --> 00:22:11,240 said repeatedly we're gonna fly sail 548 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:11,120 and operate where international law 549 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,842 permits us to do that and that 550 00:22:12,842 --> 00:22:14,620 continues in the black season . 551 00:22:14,620 --> 00:22:17,230 International body of water and we 552 00:22:17,230 --> 00:22:19,400 routinely operate in and above the 553 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,567 black city . I don't see any change to 554 00:22:21,567 --> 00:22:23,678 that going forward . But I don't know 555 00:22:23,678 --> 00:22:25,678 about this particular incident that 556 00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:29,570 you're talking about . Yes I 557 00:22:29,580 --> 00:22:30,080 can 558 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,570 peace the U . S . Is world peace 559 00:22:36,570 --> 00:22:39,720 breaker is something like this . I'll 560 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,831 have to I'll have to look into it for 561 00:22:41,831 --> 00:22:43,887 you Jack ditch from foreign policy . 562 00:22:44,940 --> 00:22:47,180 Hey john the pentagon ballparks back in 563 00:22:47,180 --> 00:22:49,124 the spring that there were 100,000 564 00:22:49,124 --> 00:22:51,402 Russian troops on the Ukrainian border . 565 00:22:51,402 --> 00:22:53,347 Just wondering if you have a troop 566 00:22:53,347 --> 00:22:55,402 counter of characterization for what 567 00:22:55,402 --> 00:22:57,458 the Russians are doing now you don't 568 00:22:57,458 --> 00:22:59,680 have a troop count for you . We have as 569 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,736 you know Jack , we've refrained from 570 00:23:01,736 --> 00:23:01,540 providing estimates like that . I'm not 571 00:23:01,540 --> 00:23:03,762 gonna get into an intelligence . What I 572 00:23:03,762 --> 00:23:05,873 would tell you is there's still there 573 00:23:05,873 --> 00:23:09,220 remains a significant Russian force 574 00:23:09,220 --> 00:23:12,870 presence around their borders with 575 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,260 Ukraine . And we continue to monitor 576 00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:17,093 that closely . We continue to be 577 00:23:17,093 --> 00:23:19,316 concerned about that . But I don't have 578 00:23:19,316 --> 00:23:21,260 an exact number for you . And just 579 00:23:21,260 --> 00:23:23,316 regarding the D . O . D . Delegation 580 00:23:23,316 --> 00:23:25,482 that went over to Ukraine of the other 581 00:23:25,482 --> 00:23:27,704 week to talk about air defense . Do you 582 00:23:27,704 --> 00:23:29,760 have any sense of when the report is 583 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:29,650 coming back from that ? Whether it's 584 00:23:29,650 --> 00:23:31,872 public ? Just just what the details are 585 00:23:31,872 --> 00:23:33,928 on that there was a small assessment 586 00:23:33,928 --> 00:23:37,460 team that went over to Ukraine to um uh 587 00:23:37,470 --> 00:23:40,130 to talk to them about air defense 588 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,050 issues and to evaluate with you know 589 00:23:43,060 --> 00:23:46,240 with what they believe their air 590 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,290 defense needs are uh that team has just 591 00:23:49,290 --> 00:23:51,346 recently come back Jack and we don't 592 00:23:51,346 --> 00:23:55,190 have a formal readout of what the 593 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,460 of what they learned or how that might 594 00:23:57,460 --> 00:23:59,460 affect security assistance packages 595 00:23:59,460 --> 00:24:01,670 going forward for Ukraine . So I don't 596 00:24:01,670 --> 00:24:03,614 have an update to give you . And I 597 00:24:03,614 --> 00:24:05,781 don't know that . Well , you know that 598 00:24:05,781 --> 00:24:07,781 their work will be the kind of work 599 00:24:07,781 --> 00:24:09,948 that would give us much flexibility to 600 00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:12,760 to uh , to talk openly unless or until , 601 00:24:12,770 --> 00:24:15,870 you know , there's a a decision to 602 00:24:15,870 --> 00:24:18,140 provide more security assistance . And 603 00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:20,140 when that comes , we've been pretty 604 00:24:20,140 --> 00:24:22,307 transparent about what's involved with 605 00:24:22,307 --> 00:24:24,251 that . So it'll be folded into the 606 00:24:24,251 --> 00:24:26,362 discussions that we're having here in 607 00:24:26,362 --> 00:24:28,196 the department about um , how to 608 00:24:28,196 --> 00:24:30,307 continue to assist Ukraine with their 609 00:24:30,307 --> 00:24:32,362 self defense needs . And again , and 610 00:24:32,362 --> 00:24:34,584 should anything come of that will be as 611 00:24:34,584 --> 00:24:36,900 transparent about it as we can be Ellen 612 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:39,870 Mitchell the hill . Hey , can you hear 613 00:24:39,870 --> 00:24:40,870 me ? All right . 614 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:46,730 Can you hear me ? All right . Uh , so 615 00:24:46,730 --> 00:24:49,840 last month after Secretary Austin 616 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,784 responded to the Oklahoma Governor 617 00:24:51,784 --> 00:24:53,840 regarding the National Guard vaccine 618 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,007 mandate . Uh , you were asked if there 619 00:24:56,007 --> 00:24:58,118 was a concern that this could quickly 620 00:24:58,118 --> 00:25:00,284 snowball that other governors will say 621 00:25:00,284 --> 00:25:02,396 we won't enforce the mandate either . 622 00:25:02,396 --> 00:25:04,118 And at the time , you said the 623 00:25:04,118 --> 00:25:06,062 Secretary didn't have any plans on 624 00:25:06,062 --> 00:25:08,284 reaching out to governors to try to get 625 00:25:08,284 --> 00:25:10,451 in front of the issue because you said 626 00:25:10,451 --> 00:25:12,673 you hadn't Seen any snowballing on your 627 00:25:12,673 --> 00:25:12,570 side . But now that there's seven 628 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:14,660 Republican governors asking for a 629 00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:16,493 retraction or exemption from the 630 00:25:16,493 --> 00:25:19,120 mandate . Does the Secretary have plans 631 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,342 to reach out in any way to governors he 632 00:25:21,342 --> 00:25:23,740 thinks might follow suit and basically 633 00:25:23,740 --> 00:25:25,796 what's the pentagon's plan to try to 634 00:25:25,796 --> 00:25:27,962 make sure other states don't pile onto 635 00:25:27,962 --> 00:25:30,450 this . Well , we're not we're not going 636 00:25:30,450 --> 00:25:33,800 to make an active effort here to try to 637 00:25:33,810 --> 00:25:36,790 to to tell other states not to express 638 00:25:36,790 --> 00:25:40,550 their concerns . Um uh so I know of no 639 00:25:40,940 --> 00:25:44,840 plans to uh proactively 640 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,062 reach out to two governors on this . We 641 00:25:47,062 --> 00:25:49,330 have received additional correspondence 642 00:25:49,330 --> 00:25:53,180 from a few other governors of states 643 00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:55,980 and we will apply to their concerns as 644 00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:57,813 appropriate , just like we did . 645 00:25:57,813 --> 00:26:00,036 Governor Stitt . I don't have an update 646 00:26:00,036 --> 00:26:02,258 for you on those replies , but we'll do 647 00:26:02,258 --> 00:26:04,480 that . Uh The only thing I would say is 648 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,313 that what I've said before , the 649 00:26:06,313 --> 00:26:08,960 vaccine is a valid military 650 00:26:09,540 --> 00:26:11,780 readiness requirements , medical 651 00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:13,780 military readiness requirement . It 652 00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:16,890 remains such uh and uh the mandatory 653 00:26:16,890 --> 00:26:19,057 vaccine policy remains in effect . And 654 00:26:19,057 --> 00:26:21,223 that does include the National Guard . 655 00:26:21,223 --> 00:26:23,500 Um , and uh you know , again , I don't 656 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:25,611 have anything more to add than that . 657 00:26:25,611 --> 00:26:27,722 Um , We want to see everybody get the 658 00:26:27,722 --> 00:26:29,722 vaccine because we think that's the 659 00:26:29,722 --> 00:26:31,833 best way to make a more ready force . 660 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,584 It was a quick follow up . Has the 661 00:26:34,584 --> 00:26:36,640 secretary responded yet to the other 662 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,862 other governors that sent their letters 663 00:26:38,862 --> 00:26:41,870 out last week ? And uh he will respond 664 00:26:41,870 --> 00:26:43,759 appropriately and I don't have an 665 00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,470 update for you on a reply . Um uh but 666 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,500 you know , we did reply to Governor 667 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,690 Stitt will reply to these additional 668 00:26:50,690 --> 00:26:52,357 governors . And in due course 669 00:26:52,357 --> 00:26:55,860 inappropriately thanks to follow up 670 00:26:55,870 --> 00:26:58,120 questions . My first is the space force 671 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,231 reach out to you regarding the design 672 00:27:00,231 --> 00:27:03,560 of the cake . No , they did not . 673 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:08,430 But I do hope I get a piece . My second 674 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,290 question in regards the extremism , I 675 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:14,467 looked through what was released in in 676 00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:16,522 the briefing . It strikes me as it's 677 00:27:16,522 --> 00:27:18,522 somewhat of a passive approach . In 678 00:27:18,522 --> 00:27:20,750 other words , individual a it is 679 00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:22,660 flagged for perhaps exhibiting 680 00:27:22,660 --> 00:27:24,493 extremist behavior and then that 681 00:27:24,493 --> 00:27:26,716 individual has talked to or or whatever 682 00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:29,300 do you anticipate at some point and 683 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:31,590 without going into speculation uh , 684 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,600 that they have been more aggressive 685 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,130 approach to extremism ? Here's why I 686 00:27:36,130 --> 00:27:38,186 ask you remember earlier this year , 687 00:27:38,186 --> 00:27:40,352 there was a marine at Quantico who was 688 00:27:40,352 --> 00:27:42,130 identified and participating in 689 00:27:42,130 --> 00:27:44,241 extremist activity . And the question 690 00:27:44,241 --> 00:27:46,210 was asked , will that individual's 691 00:27:46,220 --> 00:27:48,220 participation and his associates be 692 00:27:48,220 --> 00:27:50,220 investigated to see the extent that 693 00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:52,442 extremism perhaps at Quantico or in his 694 00:27:52,442 --> 00:27:54,370 unit . And the answer is no just 695 00:27:54,370 --> 00:27:56,148 focusing on individual . So I'm 696 00:27:56,148 --> 00:27:58,203 wondering , you know , that would be 697 00:27:58,203 --> 00:28:00,148 more less passive in other words , 698 00:28:00,148 --> 00:28:02,710 individual a posted this . Let's see 699 00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:04,890 who he or she is associated with . Do 700 00:28:04,890 --> 00:28:07,112 you understand the question ? I think I 701 00:28:07,112 --> 00:28:10,680 do tom I think the best way I can 702 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,820 respond to that is to , you know , 703 00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:17,130 remind . Um , and I know I say this all 704 00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:19,400 the time and maybe maybe it kind of 705 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,450 gets lost in the in the noise . But 706 00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:27,230 the assumption for the department is , 707 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,610 and we think rightly that the vast , 708 00:28:29,610 --> 00:28:31,800 vast majority of the men and women who 709 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,578 serve in the armed forces do so 710 00:28:33,578 --> 00:28:35,856 honorably with integrity and character . 711 00:28:35,856 --> 00:28:37,967 And they take very seriously the oath 712 00:28:37,967 --> 00:28:40,022 that they took to the constitution . 713 00:28:40,022 --> 00:28:42,133 That's our assumption going in . Um , 714 00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:43,967 and so I don't know that I would 715 00:28:43,967 --> 00:28:46,078 describe this as passive , although I 716 00:28:46,078 --> 00:28:48,356 do understand where you're coming from . 717 00:28:48,356 --> 00:28:50,467 I I get the point here question . But 718 00:28:50,467 --> 00:28:52,633 if if there is in your words passivity 719 00:28:52,633 --> 00:28:55,100 here , it's because we fundamentally 720 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,950 believe that everybody in uniform is 721 00:28:57,950 --> 00:29:00,310 gonna serve with character and dignity 722 00:29:00,310 --> 00:29:03,770 and uphold that oath . Um , and we also 723 00:29:04,540 --> 00:29:07,290 are are treating this not unlike we 724 00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:11,260 treat other potential violations , 725 00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:14,460 which is which is largely individual . 726 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,810 We we when you when you raise that 727 00:29:17,810 --> 00:29:19,810 right hand and take that oath , you 728 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,270 subscribe . You're set to yourself to a 729 00:29:22,270 --> 00:29:24,760 set of values and a set of expectations 730 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,927 about how you're gonna behave . And if 731 00:29:26,927 --> 00:29:29,090 you don't meet those expectations , 732 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:31,240 then in an organization like the 733 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,296 military , there's ramifications for 734 00:29:33,296 --> 00:29:35,407 that . I mean , we're kind of talking 735 00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:37,518 about the same thing when it comes to 736 00:29:37,518 --> 00:29:39,573 the covid vaccine . It's a mandatory 737 00:29:39,573 --> 00:29:41,796 military medic medical requirement . If 738 00:29:41,796 --> 00:29:44,018 you don't meet that requirement and you 739 00:29:44,018 --> 00:29:43,680 don't have a good reason for why you 740 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,680 can't meet that requirement will be 741 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,847 ramifications . And I think that's the 742 00:29:47,847 --> 00:29:49,958 same way we're treating this . Yeah , 743 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,862 the secretary has a response to the new 744 00:29:53,862 --> 00:29:55,940 york times , story about air strikes 745 00:29:55,940 --> 00:29:57,996 and accountability that ran over the 746 00:29:57,996 --> 00:30:00,580 weekend in particular is is the 747 00:30:00,590 --> 00:30:03,790 department's um capacity for such high 748 00:30:03,790 --> 00:30:07,210 precision um uh strikes . Is that sort 749 00:30:07,210 --> 00:30:10,150 of a handicapped that that now there's 750 00:30:10,150 --> 00:30:13,230 this unreasonable expectation of of no 751 00:30:13,230 --> 00:30:16,760 errors ever . And then also um does the 752 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,816 secretary believe perhaps that there 753 00:30:18,816 --> 00:30:21,580 should be further uh study as to the 754 00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:23,950 procedures for when a strike is conduct ? 755 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,016 I think the only thing I would do is 756 00:30:26,016 --> 00:30:27,960 point you back Abraham to what the 757 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:27,860 secretary said himself about a month 758 00:30:27,860 --> 00:30:30,082 ago . Um you know that we worked really 759 00:30:30,082 --> 00:30:32,230 hard to avoid civilian casualties and 760 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,370 but he said he said himself we uh we 761 00:30:35,370 --> 00:30:37,540 clearly need to work harder . Um and 762 00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:40,080 he's dedicated that and uh I don't have 763 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,530 any Updates or policy changes to two 764 00:30:42,530 --> 00:30:45,990 state today . Yeah . Question 765 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,530 if secretary is paying any visit to 766 00:30:50,530 --> 00:30:54,150 India anytime soon and because of the 767 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,370 chinese influence in the region going 768 00:30:56,370 --> 00:30:59,060 on . And also at the same time , many 769 00:30:59,060 --> 00:31:01,480 smaller nations are under pressure from 770 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,890 china because of in the name of 771 00:31:03,890 --> 00:31:06,470 construction on infrastructure and 772 00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:08,970 china is loaning them a lot of money 773 00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:10,914 billions of dollars including like 774 00:31:10,914 --> 00:31:12,914 Pakistan and now recently like like 775 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,550 Nicaragua . So what do you think 776 00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:20,760 if any concern as far as US security is 777 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,680 concerned from this . I don't have 778 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,902 anything on the Secretary's schedule to 779 00:31:26,902 --> 00:31:29,013 announce today with respect to travel 780 00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:31,290 um as you know , we have visited New 781 00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:33,457 Delhi and he had a great visit , their 782 00:31:33,457 --> 00:31:36,160 uh meeting with his counterpart and 783 00:31:36,170 --> 00:31:38,170 discussing what is a very important 784 00:31:38,170 --> 00:31:41,550 defense partnership with India and as 785 00:31:41,550 --> 00:31:45,190 for chinese influence around the world 786 00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:47,190 without getting into specifics . We 787 00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:51,080 know that they um , of course uh , and 788 00:31:51,090 --> 00:31:53,720 uh , and intimidate and and try to 789 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,950 bully countries to act in ways that are 790 00:31:57,340 --> 00:32:00,700 beneficial to chinese security 791 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:02,589 interests and not necessarily the 792 00:32:02,589 --> 00:32:04,589 interests of a given region or that 793 00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:07,250 given country . Um , where and when uh 794 00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:09,371 we believe that our national security 795 00:32:09,371 --> 00:32:11,260 interests are put at greater risk 796 00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:13,740 because of their activities . We have 797 00:32:13,740 --> 00:32:15,907 that discussion and we have that often 798 00:32:15,907 --> 00:32:17,851 directly with the , with the third 799 00:32:18,140 --> 00:32:21,910 party country involved or through other 800 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,920 channels with the chinese gen . He said 801 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,031 he'd get back to us about the chinese 802 00:32:28,031 --> 00:32:30,031 mind control weapons . And are they 803 00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:32,200 real or are they a real concern ? What 804 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,200 are they , what does the mean ? The 805 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,020 Treasury Department has has sanctioned 806 00:32:37,030 --> 00:32:40,770 this chinese to inform you that I don't 807 00:32:40,770 --> 00:32:42,826 have an update on that for you . But 808 00:32:42,826 --> 00:32:46,190 I'll keep working it Barbara um , with 809 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:48,480 Covid clearly spiking all over the 810 00:32:48,490 --> 00:32:51,020 country at this point . Can you tell us 811 00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:54,500 if there are any plans , decisions , 812 00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:56,990 discussions on any additional steps to 813 00:32:56,990 --> 00:33:00,360 help keep troops and base is safe 814 00:33:01,010 --> 00:33:03,010 during the holiday season . When so 815 00:33:03,010 --> 00:33:04,788 many military people like other 816 00:33:04,788 --> 00:33:06,899 americans may be traveling to try and 817 00:33:06,899 --> 00:33:09,066 keep them safe from Covid . And one of 818 00:33:09,066 --> 00:33:11,280 your biggest holiday programs , the 819 00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:14,170 NORAD tracks santa program . Is that 820 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:16,660 actually going to be able to go ahead 821 00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:19,590 with the Spike in Covid . Are you going 822 00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:22,110 to have enough people to handle that 823 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,000 program ? I would refer you to NORAD 824 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,680 north com for specifics , but my 825 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,930 understanding is that they absolutely 826 00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:33,410 will be tracking santa this year . We 827 00:33:33,410 --> 00:33:35,466 have all kinds of capabilities to do 828 00:33:35,466 --> 00:33:39,320 that . Um , and uh , he 829 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,431 will be kept safe . Of course he will 830 00:33:41,431 --> 00:33:45,140 be . My granddaughter 831 00:33:45,140 --> 00:33:47,650 definitely wants to know . Yes , he 832 00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:51,010 will be kept safe . Um , and and on 833 00:33:51,010 --> 00:33:54,470 the other question about um , the 834 00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:55,250 vaccine 835 00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:00,762 with its spiking all over the country , 836 00:34:00,870 --> 00:34:04,740 what steps are you taking ? Will there 837 00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:07,100 be even more teleworking ? Will there 838 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:09,800 be more restrictions , anything you're 839 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,030 looking at doing in the coming weeks to 840 00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:15,252 try and keep it from spiking within the 841 00:34:15,252 --> 00:34:17,030 ranks ? Well , obviously it's a 842 00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:20,410 priority for us to get the number of 843 00:34:20,410 --> 00:34:22,740 covid cases down . Um , and we have 844 00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:24,796 seen a spike , particularly over the 845 00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:27,018 course of the summer , largely that was 846 00:34:27,018 --> 00:34:29,018 due to the delta variant . We don't 847 00:34:29,018 --> 00:34:31,129 have widespread , we don't believe we 848 00:34:31,129 --> 00:34:33,184 have widespread omicron cases inside 849 00:34:33,184 --> 00:34:35,240 the military right now . I think the 850 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,240 number stands at like 10 across the 851 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:40,030 force . But we're obviously watching 852 00:34:40,030 --> 00:34:42,308 this just as closely as everybody else . 853 00:34:42,308 --> 00:34:44,419 And while I don't have any changes to 854 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,496 our medical health , republic health 855 00:34:46,496 --> 00:34:49,520 posture to talk to today . Uh , 856 00:34:49,530 --> 00:34:51,641 certainly we're going to keep all our 857 00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:53,808 options open and if we believe that we 858 00:34:53,808 --> 00:34:55,919 need to take additional precautionary 859 00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:58,086 steps will certainly do that . Whether 860 00:34:58,086 --> 00:35:00,030 some of those steps are across the 861 00:35:00,030 --> 00:35:01,863 force writ large or whether it's 862 00:35:01,863 --> 00:35:03,974 delegated down to the local commander 863 00:35:03,974 --> 00:35:05,863 level ? Because oftentimes a base 864 00:35:05,863 --> 00:35:08,086 commander , for instance , in one state 865 00:35:08,086 --> 00:35:10,252 is going to have a different community 866 00:35:10,252 --> 00:35:12,474 issue to deal with than than in another 867 00:35:12,474 --> 00:35:14,697 state . So we there will be a mix of if 868 00:35:14,697 --> 00:35:16,919 there's changes a mix either across the 869 00:35:16,919 --> 00:35:19,030 force , but also at the local level . 870 00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:21,252 But I have nothing specific to announce 871 00:35:21,252 --> 00:35:21,110 today . We're obviously watching this 872 00:35:21,110 --> 00:35:24,450 closely . No indication at this point , 873 00:35:24,450 --> 00:35:26,450 any governor might be asking for 874 00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:29,170 hospital ships or anything like that . 875 00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:31,291 No hospital ships are being requested 876 00:35:31,291 --> 00:35:33,347 right now . I think you've seen some 877 00:35:33,347 --> 00:35:37,040 governors have added or requested 878 00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:39,161 national their National Guard help in 879 00:35:39,161 --> 00:35:41,383 uh , in some of their hospitals , there 880 00:35:41,383 --> 00:35:44,490 is a north com is still uh running a 881 00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:47,090 few small active duty teams that um , 882 00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:49,378 that are helping out in certain states . 883 00:35:49,378 --> 00:35:52,180 Um Uh in fact , I can give you the list 884 00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:54,180 when you do that afterward , if you 885 00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:56,402 want , where there's small 15-20 person 886 00:35:56,402 --> 00:35:58,458 active duty teams are helping out in 887 00:35:58,458 --> 00:36:00,624 various states in hospitals . And that 888 00:36:00,624 --> 00:36:02,847 number could change over time depending 889 00:36:02,847 --> 00:36:04,902 on what the need is . Um , but but I 890 00:36:04,902 --> 00:36:07,670 know of no large scale military 891 00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:09,892 requests for assistance with respect to 892 00:36:09,892 --> 00:36:11,890 these , to these , of the boosting 893 00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:14,067 cases . We have done it in the past as 894 00:36:14,067 --> 00:36:16,730 you saw back in the spring . Um , and 895 00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:19,430 we certainly would uh , you know , 896 00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:21,597 would consider any future requests for 897 00:36:21,597 --> 00:36:23,874 support . We take those very seriously , 898 00:36:23,874 --> 00:36:26,041 but I'm not aware of any major changes 899 00:36:26,041 --> 00:36:29,310 right now . Yeah . On this anniversary 900 00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:31,780 of the birthday of the space force , is 901 00:36:31,780 --> 00:36:34,120 there any announcement about possible 902 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,342 briefing going forward with their plans 903 00:36:36,342 --> 00:36:38,509 over the next 12 months , that sort of 904 00:36:38,509 --> 00:36:40,620 thing , priorities ? I mean , they've 905 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:42,731 they've talked about this all along , 906 00:36:42,731 --> 00:36:44,898 but I just sometimes on an anniversary 907 00:36:44,898 --> 00:36:46,787 you do something special . Yeah , 908 00:36:46,787 --> 00:36:48,898 that's a great question for the Space 909 00:36:48,898 --> 00:36:51,064 force . I don't know , I don't know if 910 00:36:51,064 --> 00:36:53,120 they've got something planned to lay 911 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,064 out , you know , uh , what they've 912 00:36:55,064 --> 00:36:57,009 accomplished in two years and what 913 00:36:57,009 --> 00:36:59,176 they're looking forward to next year . 914 00:36:59,176 --> 00:36:58,740 That that's really a question for them . 915 00:36:59,630 --> 00:37:02,260 And then um on the Baltic Sea . 916 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,176 Sometime ago there was a report of a 917 00:37:05,176 --> 00:37:08,620 Russian submarine siding between on 918 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:10,703 passing under the bridge between 919 00:37:11,820 --> 00:37:14,540 Denmark in Germany or Denmark in 920 00:37:15,620 --> 00:37:18,570 Denmark and Germany . And the question 921 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:21,540 was whether the ship had been 922 00:37:21,540 --> 00:37:23,762 retrofitted . So there was a lot more , 923 00:37:23,762 --> 00:37:25,762 there was a great deal of lethality 924 00:37:25,762 --> 00:37:27,984 that hadn't been there before . And I'm 925 00:37:27,984 --> 00:37:29,984 wondering if there's any additional 926 00:37:29,984 --> 00:37:32,207 concerns about security concerns in the 927 00:37:32,207 --> 00:37:34,318 Baltic sea area that have surfaced by 928 00:37:34,318 --> 00:37:36,520 the participating countries or reports 929 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,230 to you . Concerns about security . 930 00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:42,597 I'm not aware of anything specific . I 931 00:37:42,597 --> 00:37:44,400 mean , obviously we have great 932 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,567 relationships with the Baltic states . 933 00:37:46,567 --> 00:37:48,789 We do rotational deployments to many of 934 00:37:48,789 --> 00:37:50,910 those states ? Obviously our our Navy 935 00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:53,480 and the navies of our allies and 936 00:37:53,490 --> 00:37:57,310 partners operate routinely um up in 937 00:37:57,310 --> 00:38:00,580 the in the in the Baltic area , but I 938 00:38:00,590 --> 00:38:03,190 don't have anything specific on on that 939 00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:05,079 incident . I have not heard about 940 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,000 particular Russian submarine going up 941 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,890 under a bridge and having um unique 942 00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:14,910 capabilities . Let me go back to the 943 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,640 phones here . Excuse me , Tony . 944 00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:31,387 Okay . Do you want to take on the role 945 00:38:31,387 --> 00:38:35,220 of Tony today or ? That's 946 00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:36,750 true . 947 00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:44,964 I think he wanted to ask about the 948 00:38:44,964 --> 00:38:47,020 status of the nuclear posture review 949 00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:49,020 and is there an expectation on when 950 00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:51,131 it's going to be released and what it 951 00:38:51,131 --> 00:38:53,298 will focus on ? I well , it's going to 952 00:38:53,298 --> 00:38:55,187 focus on our nuclear posture . Of 953 00:38:55,187 --> 00:38:57,353 course , I don't have an update on the 954 00:38:57,353 --> 00:38:59,353 actual review itself and this is an 955 00:38:59,353 --> 00:39:01,576 interagency effort . We are certainly a 956 00:39:01,576 --> 00:39:03,576 part of and uh , but I , I couldn't 957 00:39:03,576 --> 00:39:05,464 give you an update specifically . 958 00:39:05,464 --> 00:39:07,520 You're supposed to supposed to check 959 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,576 your , what about your cheat sheet ? 960 00:39:09,576 --> 00:39:11,670 You cheap , cheap . I don't need to 961 00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:13,781 check my actually study before I come 962 00:39:13,781 --> 00:39:16,630 up here . So I don't have to check it 963 00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:18,470 for everything . Did you have a 964 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:20,692 question of your own that you'd like to 965 00:39:20,692 --> 00:39:22,303 throw or just give a channel 966 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,340 define for us the record 967 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,150 what is considered extremism 968 00:39:33,020 --> 00:39:37,010 Jenna . I mean that's almost a 969 00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:39,242 philosophical question which is not one 970 00:39:39,242 --> 00:39:41,020 that we tried to tackle in this 971 00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:42,687 instruction , the instruction 972 00:39:42,687 --> 00:39:46,200 specifically listed a 973 00:39:46,210 --> 00:39:48,580 definition of what extremist activities 974 00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:50,636 are . I can read them for you if you 975 00:39:50,636 --> 00:39:52,691 want them if you want that , I'll do 976 00:39:52,691 --> 00:39:54,802 that . But it is in the instruction , 977 00:39:54,802 --> 00:39:57,950 There was never an intent from the get 978 00:39:57,950 --> 00:40:00,360 go to come up with a definition of what 979 00:40:00,370 --> 00:40:02,820 is or what isn't extremism that the 980 00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:05,640 purpose of this instruction was to was 981 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,862 to better well many purposes but one of 982 00:40:07,862 --> 00:40:09,751 them was to better define what is 983 00:40:09,751 --> 00:40:12,400 prohibited extremist activity and then 984 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,390 we added that two part test of not just 985 00:40:15,390 --> 00:40:17,168 the activity but what is active 986 00:40:17,168 --> 00:40:19,279 participation in that activity ? What 987 00:40:19,279 --> 00:40:21,446 does that mean and all that's laid out 988 00:40:21,446 --> 00:40:23,223 very , very specifically in the 989 00:40:23,223 --> 00:40:25,390 instruction that you identified in the 990 00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:27,900 process of this review what portion , 991 00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:29,910 if any of you could break it down , 992 00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:32,950 were they all members of sort of groups 993 00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:34,617 that you might consider white 994 00:40:34,617 --> 00:40:36,728 supremacist groups or were there also 995 00:40:36,728 --> 00:40:39,450 some who may have been President of 996 00:40:39,460 --> 00:40:42,590 Black Lives matter protests , what what 997 00:40:42,590 --> 00:40:44,423 is the breakdown of the types of 998 00:40:44,423 --> 00:40:46,479 activity that you saw ? I don't have 999 00:40:46,479 --> 00:40:48,590 that breakdown of what their specific 1000 00:40:48,590 --> 00:40:51,030 activities were and again these were 1001 00:40:52,340 --> 00:40:55,920 individuals that were substantiated 1002 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,130 allegations of of participating in 1003 00:40:59,140 --> 00:41:01,390 extremist activity . I don't have a 1004 00:41:01,390 --> 00:41:03,740 breakdown of all 100 of them . What 1005 00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:06,240 what the specifics were ? I just , I 1006 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,640 don't okay , take one more 1007 00:41:11,810 --> 00:41:14,280 because it's a holiday week , Jeff 1008 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,770 shuttle , thank you . Can the Defense 1009 00:41:17,770 --> 00:41:20,720 Department provide a list of the assets 1010 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,664 that will be escorting santa claus 1011 00:41:22,664 --> 00:41:24,498 through american airspace ? This 1012 00:41:24,498 --> 00:41:26,609 christmas , Jeff that is an excellent 1013 00:41:26,609 --> 00:41:28,664 question , I'm gonna have to take it 1014 00:41:28,664 --> 00:41:30,887 because we're talking about operational 1015 00:41:30,887 --> 00:41:32,998 issues and uh and you know , we don't 1016 00:41:32,998 --> 00:41:34,776 like to do that from the podium 1017 00:41:34,776 --> 00:41:37,240 particularly Opsec . So what I can tell 1018 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,351 you is that to the degree that we can 1019 00:41:39,351 --> 00:41:41,573 be fully transparent with you , we will 1020 00:41:41,573 --> 00:41:45,040 be about santa's escorts but I can 1021 00:41:45,050 --> 00:41:47,780 assure everybody that he will in fact 1022 00:41:47,790 --> 00:41:50,340 get the escorts he needs um and he will 1023 00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:53,090 be rendered as safe and effective as he 1024 00:41:53,090 --> 00:41:55,300 can be on christmas eve . What was he 1025 00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:58,760 back ? That's really beyond the purview 1026 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,570 of the Department of Defense . What I 1027 00:42:01,570 --> 00:42:03,760 can tell you is that we will make sure 1028 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,980 that those escorting santa have been 1029 00:42:05,980 --> 00:42:07,869 fully vaccinated . Alright thanks 1030 00:42:07,869 --> 00:42:10,920 everybody . I think I'm briefing 1031 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,740 tomorrow and then I'm out on Wednesday , 1032 00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:16,170 so I'll be out until after the new year . 1033 00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:22,730 Mhm , mm hmm , 1034 00:42:37,410 --> 00:42:40,810 mm hmm . Yeah . 1035 00:42:42,510 --> 00:42:46,240 Okay . Right .